The Old Gun Pit closure.

The Old Gun Pit closure.

 

 

The Bull Tavern closed to a large new housing development coming soon.

The Old Gun Pit closed by enforcement officers or bailiffs on 20th June 2024.

The Old Gun Pit closure.

Earlier this year they closed the Equitable pub in General Gordon Place, Woolwich due to financial difficulties caused by the Covid pandemic, then we lost the Bull Tavern in Vincent Road, Woolwich and not to  mention the Queens arms in Burrage Road, and now we have lost the Old Gun Pit.

The Bull Tavern I believe was closed due to a planned new housing development next to the new Woolwich leisure centre that is being built at the moment.

The closure of the Old Gun Pit was a bit of a surprise not only to its customers and patrons, but it would seem also to some of its staff.

When checking on its Facebook page just four days ago it was advertising for customers to come and watch all the Euro matches at the pub, and the very next day it is announcing its closure.

There is a notice of repossession from an enforcement company acting on behalf of the landlords stuck to the pub door. So, it looks like they were not paying the rent to the landlords, so the bailiffs have come a knocking. If they were fighting a repossession for some other reason, then the management must have realised this would have happened at some time, so it couldn’t have been such a surprise after all.

They advertised themselves as the oldest Irish pub in South East London.

I never got around to reviewing this  place and now I never will.  To be honest it was not one of these places that I would have frequented myself, its clientele always looked a bit rough and ready, and the pub looked like the type of place a fight could break out at any moment, but looking at the reviews I could have been wrong about the place.  The locals seem to love it and at the end of the day it was the type of pub that relied on its locals rather than footfall or tourist clientele. It is Woolwich after all not touristy Greenwich.

Woolwich is losing too many pubs lately. I hope the landlords will lease the Old Gun Pit site out as a pub again soon to new management or a brewery chain.

We are still waiting for an update about the Volunteer pub in Powis Street that is supposed to open some time in 2024, but the managers or owners have still not given an opening date.

 

Urban Village Fete 2024

Urban Village Fete 2024

 

 Urban Village Fete 2024

I had missed the last couple of these fetes, so I did not know what to expect. I thought it would be a small affair on the green. How wrong I was.

The whole thing was five to six times bigger than what I was expecting and covered almost the whole of the Peninsular Central Park.  From small craft merchants and clothes shops to numerous and various, food stalls and workshops of many variations.

There were several bars including two old Red Rover double-decker buses converted into mobile pubs.

For entertainment, there were at least three DJ systems including a big one at the end of the green with a number of DJs, including Jamz Supernova, Millie McKee and Gilles Peterson, with two big display screens to add to the ambience and atmosphere.

There were two smaller sound systems at the other end of the Park that were more family orientated playing music from the 70s, 80s and 90s and some of the music was quite cheesy but fun. The mums, dad’s and kids loved it.

Apart from inclusive talks ranging from “sustainable fashion” the “future of Britain” and “work-life balance there were also various workshops to try your hand at learning and creativity.

Food was provided by numerous stalls selling cuisines for every taste and genre from around the world. Unfortunately, like most of the bars the length of the queues put me off so I didn’t get to try any of them. I only managed to get a couple of beers from a craft beer stall, selling craft lager and cold German beer. If I had waited in the queue for the London red bus bars it would have taken me about 15 to 20 minutes to get served.

The place was very packed, but you could still find somewhere along the grass area in which to set up a mat somewhere for friends and family.

For the kids there was a kids Olympics considering of a ‘tug of war’, a ‘fluffy toy pineapple’ throwing competition amongst many others. They also had a kids circus for the kids to take part in various child safe circus activities.

Another thing that impressed me was the toilet facilities which although crowded was useable and fast. They had forgone the usual easy route of rows and rows of disgusting Port-a-loos and gone for clean mobile toilet trailers with sinks and air dryers. A major plus point in my books.

This is very much an event that I Will be including in next year’s calendar. And to top it all, it was all free.

If you didn’t fancy waiting in line for food and drink almost next door you had the Greenwich Peninsula and the O2, both of which are jam-packed with bars, pubs and restaurants.

 

Bar Etiquette

Bar Etiquette

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 PUB PET HATES

There seem to be two new fads that seem to be creeping into the pub lifestyle that I find abhorrent.

The first is one that I have seen a number of times now, in the Silver Cross in Whitehall and the Dial Arch in Woolwich, and one or two other touristy pubs. This is the totally non-British way of getting served at the bar by standing in a queue waiting for the person in front to leave the bar before the next customer goes up to be served.

It seems to be done mainly by tourists than locals, but it has to stop. I have to call out this kind of thing before it starts getting normalised.

The British will queue for almost everything, from waiting for a bus (while the foreigners jump the queue and push in) to waiting in line at the post office, or waiting in line for just about any service you can think of. It shows a sign of respect and fairness.

There is one exception to this British rule and that is when we are waiting to get served at the bar of a pub. Up until this new fad crept in there were no single lines in a pub perpendicular to the bar.

The rules and etiquette of getting served at the bar in Britain have been the same for hundreds of years and served us well.

First you find a space at the bar. Yes there may be a few arrogant arseholes who like to sit at the bar and hog the bar space the whole night. You simply ask them  if you can get to the bar and usually that will do.

When you have access to the bar either hold up a tenner or twenty pound note to indicate you want serving or make eye contact or gesture to the barman to indicate service is wanted.

If the person next to you has been waiting longer than you, it is the polite and correct thing to do and ask the barman to serve them first. It shows you have manners.

It should be noted that some bar staff are a bit peeved off with this new queueing lark as well, and some have resorted to putting up signs asking people to not queue but simply step up to the bar instead.

Really good and  experienced bar staff you will find can multitask and will ask you what you want while still pulling the pints for the people that they have just served before you. This can be problematic when people are queuing up as it slows down the serving flow.

The other irritating fad that seems to be creeping in from America is the bar staff of certain pub chains expecting a tip every time I buy a drink or round at the bar with my card or phone.

If the staff, like in many continental countries came to our table asked us what we would like to drink and brought the drinks in a friendly and efficient manner to our table, then yes I would gladly give the staff a tip.

But George or Fred behind the bar pulling a pint as he is expected to do in his job description then no , he will not be getting a tip from me.

I even had a barman at a fancy high end Piccadilly hotel automatically add his tip onto a bill that I was given even though I had ordered all the drinks at the bar and was standing at the bar. I made him remove the tip from the bill.

In the States a Barman’s tip is expected as the wages due to employer exploitation and next to no labour protection laws. Their basic wages are shit and the pathetic $7.25 minimum wage that has not changed in decades, so without their tips they would not be able to survive.

In Britain we have a decent minimum wage and other benefits that their American counterparts cannot claim. There is no need to start bringing in a tipping culture into Britain.

If your old dad or granddad was asked for a tip by the barman to pull a pint years ago  he would have been telling the barman in no uncertain terms where to go, or be up before the magistrates for punching out a barman.

The price of a pint at present  is astronomical compared to just a decade ago, so the publican or landlord is getting generously reimbursed for the pint he is serving. There is no need or justification for tipping at the bar, unless you are being waited upon. The Landlord should be paying his staff accordingly unless he is of the greedy and exploitative type but that is a thing the employee should be sorting out with the employer, not expecting me to top up his wages.

Under no circumstance should we allow our pubs to be Americanised in this way. American employers have got away with treating their workers like shit, with exploitative labour laws that always benefit the employers, and slave wage rates that are as low as the employer can get away with. Thanks to EU workers rights and labour laws tipping for everything must not become the norm here.

I have also seen a separate card reader in some establishments at the end of the bar, or a jar of tips for the barman or barmaid. I have no problem giving a few quid in this way to the bar staff, if they give exceptional service or engage you in pleasant conversation or in some way makes your visit a nice experience. That saying, don’t expect a tip if you are a miserable barman making me feel like I’m putting you out or making me wait ages to get served at the bar.

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